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Subject: Blake and Merton
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:53:47 -0500
From: "J. Michael"
To: blake@albion.com
Since someone raised the question of Merton's MA thesis on Blake, I did a
little checking on it. The thesis doesn't seem to be available from UMI
(they've only recently started listing MA theses), but in addition to the
microfilm at Columbia, there is also a reprint (or photocopy) which several
libraries have (in addition to Saint Mary's, which apparently made the
copy). I'm trying to get it myself on interlibrary loan, since I've gotten
interested in Merton lately. Here's the citation:
DATABASE: WorldCat
ACCESSION: 6364855
AUTHOR:
Merton, Thomas, 1915-1968.
TITLE: Nature and art in William Blake :
an essay in interpretation
YEAR: 1980 1939
PUB TYPE: Book
FORMAT: ii, 98 leaves.
NOTES: Photocopy of typescript. Notre Dame, Ind. :
Saint Mary's College Library, 1980. -- 28 cm.
Thesis (M.A.)--Columbia University.
Bibliography: leaves [96]-98.
SUBJECT:
Blake, William, -- 1757-1827 -- Art.
Blake, William, -- 1757-1827 -- Criticism and
interpretation.
Hope this helps.
Jennifer Michael
jmichael@sewanee.edu
Winter under cultivation
Is as arable as Spring. --Emily Dickinson
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Subject: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:40:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Ralph Dumain
To: blake@albion.com
Three's an oddity in the Fall 1998 issue of B:IQ that others have surely
noticed. The table of contents lists a review of William Richey's BLAKE'S
ALTERING AESTHETIC by Jennifer Davis Michael, yet the review is not to be
found in this issue, and the pages numbers of the subsequent articles listed
are all wrong. Can someone explain this anomaly?
While we are at it, perhaps Jennifer herself can explain something about her
own book(s) on Blake. Last time I visited the Strand in New York, I found a
really interesting book by her, whose title I can't remember, and which I
could not afford even at a discount.
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Subject: Re: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:38:19 -0500
From: "J. Michael"
To: blake@albion.com
Ralph, my review of Richey's book is coming out in the Winter issue; the
table of contents for the Fall issue is in error.
I don't know what to make of this expensive book of mine you saw for sale
in New York. I must have a doppelganger, because I have not yet published
any book. I am working on finding a publisher for my manuscript, _Blake's
Urban Romanticism_. Maybe you're actually telling me it's been pirated and
published on the black market, as they used to do in Pope's time, in which
case I (not to mention my tenure committee) will be thrilled to hear it!
Jennifer Michael
jmichael@sewanee.edu
Winter under cultivation
Is as arable as Spring. --Emily Dickinson
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Subject: Jerusalem-- New Conclusions?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:59:21 -0500
From: albright@world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
To: blake@albion.com
Well, as you old-timers know, the later, longer works are not my forte--
except in minute particular excerpts and stuff, but... has anyone else read
_The Dialectic of Vision, A Contrary Reading of William Blake's Jerusalem_
by Fred Dortort (1998)? Again, I've just zoomed into plates and issues that
were of interest to me, but...
Other views?
--- Randall Albright
~~~~~~~
>And did those feet in ancient time
>Walk upon England's mountains green?
>And was the holy Lamb of God
>On England's pleasant pastures seen?
For one thing, I notice as a sheep/goat that these are all formed as mere
questions.
>And did the Countenance Divine
>Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
>And was Jerusalem builded here
>Among these dark Satanic Mills?
As are the ones above.
>Bring me my bow of burning gold;
>Bring me my Arrows of desire;
>Bring me my Spear; O clouds unfold!
>Bring me my Chariot of fire!
But here is where Blake (or the Narrator) takes charge.
>I will not cease from Mental Fight,
>Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand,
>Till we have built Jerusalem
>In England's green & pleasant Land.
~~~~~~
REPTILES
by D.H. Lawrence
Homer was wrong in saying, 'Would that strife might pass away from among
gods and men!' He did not see that he was praying for the destruction of
the universe; for, if his prayer were heard, all things would pass
away--for in the tension of opposites all things have their being--
~~~~~~~
And to paraphrase Derrida (without the dadadada at the end)-- Jerusalem
(Liberty?) is *always* in need of building, preservation, further
extension, and in danger of decaying, contrasted to Babylon.
------ Randall Albright
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Subject: Re: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:08:18 -0500
From: Patricia Neill
To: blake@albion.com
Dear Mr. Dumain, and all:
What happened is one of those nightmares of publishing--a last minute
change, which unfortunately was not reflected in the table of contents.
Private apologies have already been made; erratum will be publicly noted in
the next available issue. I'm sure we all devoutly wish that such anomalies
would never occur, but, as we all know, to err is human.
Jennifer Davis Michael's review of _Blake's Altering Aesthetic_ is in the
winter issue, which is due out shortly.
Sincerely,
Patricia Neill
Managing Editor,
Blake
>Three's an oddity in the Fall 1998 issue of B:IQ that others have surely
>noticed. The table of contents lists a review of William Richey's BLAKE'S
>ALTERING AESTHETIC by Jennifer Davis Michael, yet the review is not to be
>found in this issue, and the pages numbers of the subsequent articles listed
>are all wrong. Can someone explain this anomaly?
>
>While we are at it, perhaps Jennifer herself can explain something about her
>own book(s) on Blake. Last time I visited the Strand in New York, I found a
>really interesting book by her, whose title I can't remember, and which I
>could not afford even at a discount.
>
>
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Subject: Re: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:39:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Ralph Dumain
To: blake@albion.com
This is a great embarrassment. Oddly enough, your title could well have
been akin to the subject of the book I saw. I could be confusing you with
another female academic on this list, but I can't imagine who this would be.
At 04:38 PM 2/10/99 -0500, J. Michael wrote:
>I don't know what to make of this expensive book of mine you saw for sale
>in New York. I must have a doppelganger, because I have not yet published
>any book. I am working on finding a publisher for my manuscript, _Blake's
>Urban Romanticism_. Maybe you're actually telling me it's been pirated and
>published on the black market, as they used to do in Pope's time, in which
>case I (not to mention my tenure committee) will be thrilled to hear it!
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Subject: Re: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:33:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Meredith W Thomson
To: "J. Michael"
CC: blake@albion.com
Dear Jennifer,
I, too, noticed the report of seeing you in BAIQ and was confused
by the situation. I'm so glad Ralph get it clear for us all. I was also
momentarily delighted at the thought of your (presumptive) book, even at a
PRICE. You do know that if you meet this doppelganger you must cry
"Fetch!" instantly so that she will be drawn back into her own world and
the two of you will not obliterate one another. It is not beyond the
realms of probability that this should happen to a Romanticist: so many of
the great poems are full of suggestive situations.
I must confess to being a little vague on long range
chapter-casting. I'd rather not do it on email because ours here makes
printing out quite a pain. I will inquire of those wiser about these
things than I so I can give you a reasonable answer. Perhaps it would be easier
for me to send you a disk so you can just down load it. That would not
be a problem for the computer at all. (I do know that much.)
And thanks, too, for the reference to the Merton MA. I'll put it
on my list.
Thanks a million,
Meredith
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, J. Michael wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:38:19 -0500
> From: "J. Michael"
> Reply-To: blake@albion.com
> To: blake@albion.com
> Subject: Re: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
> Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:38:19 -0500
> Resent-From: blake@albion.com
>
> Ralph, my review of Richey's book is coming out in the Winter issue; the
> table of contents for the Fall issue is in error.
>
> I don't know what to make of this expensive book of mine you saw for sale
> in New York. I must have a doppelganger, because I have not yet published
> any book. I am working on finding a publisher for my manuscript, _Blake's
> Urban Romanticism_. Maybe you're actually telling me it's been pirated and
> published on the black market, as they used to do in Pope's time, in which
> case I (not to mention my tenure committee) will be thrilled to hear it!
>
> Jennifer Michael
>
> jmichael@sewanee.edu
>
> Winter under cultivation
> Is as arable as Spring. --Emily Dickinson
>
>
>
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Subject: A brief introduction
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 99 12:58:15 -0800
From: Seth T. Ross
To: blake@albion.com
Forwarding ...
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 99 05:44:24 -0800
From: "Catriona Gaffney"
Organization: Dundee University
To:
Subject: A brief introduction
Hello everyone,
I've just joined this mailing list and thought I'd give a brief
introduction.
My name is Katie Gaffney, I am emailing from Dundee, Scotland. I am
19 and a 2nd year English student at Dundee (hence my interest in
Blake).
Because I'm in 2nd year I'm doing two other subjects: Philosophy and
Psychology, but really I'd like to get onto the single honours
English course.
I'm originally from Livingston, near Edinburgh.. so home isn't too
far away if ever I need to escape
For the next couple of weeks I'm working on an essay on Blake. If
anyone has any comments about what sets Blake aside from other
Romantic poets it would be greatly appreciated, as it would perhaps
give me some direction for my own research.
Anyway, lovely to meet you all.
Take care,
Katie
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Subject: Re: BLAKE: AN ILLUSTRATED QUARTERLY?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:00:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Ralph Dumain
To: blake@albion.com
I'm glad I could be if some use, but I'm still obsessed with answering this
question. I don't recall the book I saw being a bound dissertation copy; I
think it was a real hardback book with a dust jacket. If I am mixing up
Jennifer with some other woman on this list, who could it be? Other than a
couple of women I've corresponded with, one of whose book I bought at the
same time, I can't recall other prominent women on this list off hand who
might fit the bill. I wish someone could put me out of my misery. I don't
remember the title either, but the book had something of a theoretical
nature about it, possibly concerning philosophy or discourse.
At 11:33 AM 2/11/99 -0500, Meredith W Thomson wrote:
>I'm so glad Ralph get it clear for us all. I was also
>momentarily delighted at the thought of your (presumptive) book, even at a
>PRICE.
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Subject: Re: Blake and Merton
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 16:30:15 -0800
From: Seth T. Ross
To: blake@albion.com
Forwarding from Jon Winsor ...
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 12:31:41 -0800
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From: "Jon Winsor"
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Subject: Re: Blake and Merton
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Sorry I didn't post this earlier before Jennifer Micheal did that
research.
Merton's Blake thesis is published in Merton's _Literary Essays_ (I
think that's the title). When it was published (in the mid 60's I
believe), Merton wrote an introduction apologizing for its
inaccuracies, both on the subject of Blake and Thomist theology. The
thesis was published in 1938, well before any of the groundbreaking
Blake scholarship published since.
Also in the _Literary Essays_ is Merton's 1967 essay on Thomas
Altizer's book on Blake.
Merton's biographer Micheal Mott says (paraphrasing) 'just about all
of Merton's later concerns are present somewhere in his 1938 thesis'.
But he also says that the finished product ended up being not that
good (I would agree). Mott also says the notes he wrote while writing
the thesis has potential for a subject of study. I've personally seen
these notes and copied most of them down (they wouldn't let me use a
photocopier when I visited the Merton Center). It's been a while since
I've looked at themUI'd be happy to field any questions about them if
anyone has any.
I believe the New Critical 'party line' that was around during
Merton's Columbia days was that Blake had been off on a kind of
fishing trip, away from any 'tradition' that would have allowed him to
produce a more intelligible body of work (see Eliot's Blake essay in
one of his short essay collections). Enough people have challenged
this assessment that it's pretty untenable now. My take is Merton
took this theory and ran with it in an unexpected direction. Merton's
thesis is that Blake lead a 'semi-retired' (the word Merton uses)
existence that was necessary in order to produce works with
contemplative power or 'claritas' (to use the Thomist term in Merton's
thesis, although I'm pretty clueless about Thomist theology).
Merton's thesis relies on criticism that nowadays isn't considered
authoritative on Blake: Yeats and Ellis, the Indian (writer?
anthropologist? theologian?) Ananda Coomaraswami, Gilson the Catholic
theologian, and I suspect D. H. Lawrence is a kind of background
presence in the sense that Merton is trying to terms with the
influence Lawrence's art had had on him at an earlier point in his
life.
Merton's thesis downplays the importance of Blake's connection to
political radicals like Tom Paine, but I doubt that he would have said
the same thing later in life, when Merton himself was consorting with
leaders of the civil rights and anti-war movements.
Even Merton's early mysticism is tied to temporal matters in some
interesting ways. Mott credits Aldous Huxley's _Ends and Means_ with
Merton and his Columbia friends taking mysticism seriously. _Ends and
Means_ discusses 30's era politics almost as much as it discusses
mysticism.
Sorry to ramble, but at any rate I hope some of this information is
helpful....
--Jon Winsor
--
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:53:47 J. Michael wrote:
>Since someone raised the question of Merton's MA thesis on Blake, I did a
>little checking on it. The thesis doesn't seem to be available from UMI
>(they've only recently started listing MA theses), but in addition to the
>microfilm at Columbia, there is also a reprint (or photocopy) which several
>libraries have (in addition to Saint Mary's, which apparently made the
>copy). I'm trying to get it myself on interlibrary loan, since I've gotten
>interested in Merton lately. Here's the citation:
>
>DATABASE: WorldCat
>
>ACCESSION: 6364855
> AUTHOR:
> Merton, Thomas, 1915-1968.
> TITLE: Nature and art in William Blake :
> an essay in interpretation
> YEAR: 1980 1939
> PUB TYPE: Book
> FORMAT: ii, 98 leaves.
> NOTES: Photocopy of typescript. Notre Dame, Ind. :
> Saint Mary's College Library, 1980. -- 28 cm.
> Thesis (M.A.)--Columbia University.
> Bibliography: leaves [96]-98.
> SUBJECT:
> Blake, William, -- 1757-1827 -- Art.
> Blake, William, -- 1757-1827 -- Criticism and
> interpretation.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Jennifer Michael
>
>jmichael@sewanee.edu
>
>Winter under cultivation
>Is as arable as Spring. --Emily Dickinson