Blake List — Volume 1997 : Issue 30

Today's Topics:
	 RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'
	 Everybody must get cloned...
	 mystic?
	 Re: Eternity, Urizen & FZ -Reply/cognition eternal or temporal
	 Eternity beyond the page
	 Re: Luvah, Los and Orc
	 Re: Eternity beyond the page
	 address
	 Re: Everybody must get cloned...
	 RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'
	 RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'
	       RCPT: mystic?
	 Two Picky Questions on Satire in Blake
	 Re: mystic?
	 Re: Young Ned of the North
	 french revolution
	      searching eE
	 Re: Luvah, Los and Orc -Reply
	 french revolution -Reply
	 Introduction
	 Re: searching eE
	 Re: searching eE
	 Re: french revolution -Reply
	 Hi, John. Welcome to the Blake List
	      searching eE

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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 10:21:20 +0200
From: P Van Schaik 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'
Message-Id: 

Blake would , no doubt, have loved what Thomas Altizer says on page
169 of this text:
  The Forgiveness of sin is the New Jerusalem, the apocalyptic name of
love, and the contemporary name of Christ'   and `the forgiveness of sin
is .. the abolition and transcendence of the private ego'. I think Thomas's
interpretation of the role of Jesus (page 103) is also very much in the
spirit of Blake:
`... the work of Jesus was the task of inverting and reversing all those
given images of God which lay .before and  about him'.  and `In Jesus
we encounter the ... prophet who effects an absolute reversal of that
mystery ... [of God]'.  Is this not exactly what Blake attempts to do in
prophesying that Earth will rise from her `chains' and her `sleep'?
Moreover, I have to commend this statement , particularly in the light of
the present discussion on-line re eternity and cognition:
Altizer asks, `Does otherness itself collapse and disappear with the full
realization of an interior death?  Can we celebrate the dissolution of our
unique and particular ego as the initial appearance of a universal
humanity?  All of these questions  drive us to the ethical meaning of a
contemporary apocalyptic way of faith.   Each  of these questions points
the way to an apocalyptic future when ... Christ will be all in all'.

Thomas, you make a wonderful gloss on BLake as I understand him! 
Pam van Schaik, Pretoria.

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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:15:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott A Leonard 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Everybody must get cloned...
Message-Id: 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Perhaps a little (not totally off-list) levity for you all from a local
paper wouldn't be amiss:

The Lamb
(for William Blake)

Little lamb, who cloned you?
Do you know who cloned you?
Implanted you in embryo
Creating such a cameo?
Gave you DNA complete,
Softest fusing, wool and bleat;
>From a mammary cell he drew
The DNA that makes up ewe.
Little Lamb, who cloned you
Do you know who cloned you?

Little lamb, I'll tell you,
Little lamb, I'll tell you;
He is embryologist,
Though he is no catechist.
He is at the Institute.
He's no shepherd, plays no flute.
He's not meek, and he's not mild.
Wilmut is no little child.
He, the cloner, you the lamb,
And you are no anagram!
Little clone, God bless you.
Little clone, God bless you.


Shirley S. Stevens, Sewickley, PA
(near Pittsburgh)


Hi ho, back to eternity.

Scott A. Leonard
Youngstown State U

saleonar@unix1.cc.ysu.edu

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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:24:22 GMT
From: "Louise Creely" <10014773@ccs.edge-hill-college.ac.uk>
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: mystic?
Message-Id: <15B4227F9@ccs.edge-hill-college.ac.uk>

I have a question to pose to you lot out there who possibly know more 
about Blake than I do!!!!  Has anyone any ideas about the question 
'IS Blake a Mystic or an Ironic Social Commentator' in relation to 
the French Revolution and what was occuring in London at the time of 
his writings?

Cheers.

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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:34:38 -0800
From: Steve Perry 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Eternity, Urizen & FZ -Reply/cognition eternal or temporal
Message-Id: <332051AE.7340@surf.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Pam,
Thank you for this very wonderful concise and I think accurate
illumination.  Your depiction of Urizen's descent into error is
excellent.

Steve=A0Perry

P Van Schaik wrote:

  Gloudina, since you specifically invite me to answer on this, I'm
  happy to
  oblige. Re whether cognition is founded on the notion of temporality
  ...
  no, in Blake it can't be because he perceives our true realities as
  divine
  and immortal and us as participating in the divine humanity in Eden
  and
  Beulah. Those fully expanded into God's light in Eternity are all
  themselves god-like and can create infinitely varied and unique
  paradises
  within their realms of light. (Not  the type of Eternity depicted in
  Mormon
  films in Salt Lake City... unless, of course, the individual wants
  exactly
  that kind of white-robed, harp-playing paradise). In this, each
  Herb, Lily
  of the Valley, Rose, and even Clod of Clay appear as having a divine

  human form ... as depicted in Blake's illustrations to `The Book of
  Thel'  ...
  there is not a particle of existence that is not fully divinely
  human.
  However, to mistake the Selfhood (the core of uniqueness at the
  centre
  of everything) for the true self is to fall into delusion - or a
  mistaken
  cognition of one's real identity. This is what happens to Urizen who
  then,
  like an atomic implosion, creates a downward vortex into which all
  of
  Albion's children are swept,  but from which they can still emerge
  by
  recovering faith in the divine vision. So, our cognition here on
  earth is
  seen by Blake as limited and contracted by the finite senses, but
  not so
  extinguished that we can not recover our pristine state of being.
  Perhaps this is only partially possible on earth, but, fully
  realizable when
  we die.  Pam van Schaik, Unisa, RSA

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Date: 07 Mar 97 15:40:02 EST
From: Philip Benz <100575.2061@CompuServe.COM>
To: "internet:blake@albion.com" 
Subject: Eternity beyond the page
Message-Id: <970307204001_100575.2061_GHW87-2@CompuServe.COM>

Eternity is always already beyond the page, innit?

Jeffrey said: <<  in blake, on the other hand, as i read him, eternity 
has a further seriousness: it is not simply an address, but rather a 
condition utterly without temporality. >>

    I'd be *very* curious to know where Blake actually portrays 
Eternity, rather than having his characters piss & moan about how nice 
it was in that lost golden age of innocence. I recall seeing the 
"Eternals" looking in on the main narrative stream at several points in 
_FZ_, but I think we'd have to conclude that if those "Eternals" are 
busy observing the temporal flow of events, then they too are caught up 
in it.
    Nowhere in _Ur_ do I see a-temporal Eternity portrayed. When Jeffrey 
says << if his [Urizen's] action is eternal, then there is nothing 
that comes before it-- no pre-fallen state>>, I have to conclude he's 
misreading _Ur_. As I said in my last post, _Ur_ opens with Urizen in an 
already separate individuated state. Indeed, it would seem that he is 
the first zoa to achieve individual identity. The very act of his 
separation from the rest of the "Eternals" is the beginning of the fall, 
of temporality, the beginning of non-eternity.

    BTW, Jeffrey, you suggested I'd rather let the Eternity question lie 
-- far from it! Like you said, it is an important key in understanding 
this mysterious assemblage of meanings Blake has left us to work out.
    
    Gloudina took umbrage at my apparent dismissal of "Urizenic light" 
-- i.e. the light of reasoned discussion. Actually, I don't believe I've 
been dismissive at all towards Urizen. Blake obviously has more fun 
portraying Urizen's excesses than any other characters' actions in _FZ_. 
While he tends to portray Urizen negatively, I do not believe he is 
suggesting we go without all Urizenic tendencies. But from reading _FZ_ 
I feel safe in claiming that he deplores their excessive dominance.
    Man would be incomplete without a Urizenic component; the trick is 
to keep it from dominating the other three. Los learned his craft during 
his Urizenic phase. Only in the final nights of _FZ_ does he realize his 
error and reform himself. His sublime mission is to help others see 
their own errors and follow him on the path to balance and harmony. As 
he confesses to Rahab, a sometime daughter of Urizen:
    
.  "O Rahab, I behold thee I was once like thee a Son
.  Of Pride and I also have pierced the Lamb of God in pride & wrath
.  Hear me repeat my Generation that thou mayst also repent"
        (_FZ_ Night the Ninth, p105)
        
    Not that Rahab is likely to listen. If I've been reading right she 
represents an aspect of Urizenic error that Generation must overcome on 
the road to Jerusalem. But it's Los' sublime duty to spread the word, so 
speak he must.
    
Hugh said: <>

    Yeah, it's funny I've adopted this professorial tone when I'm really 
the new kid on the Blake block. But these all-too-Urizenic posts of mine 
are really just my red thread through this labyrinthine garden Blake has 
planted in my path. I fully expected all you expert Blakeophiles to pull 
me up short and say where I'd got it all wrong. Instead, you're agreeing 
with me!
    Where the opposition, I ask??? No friendship for a pisspot priest?
    
    

Cheers,   --- Phil
 

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Date: 07 Mar 97 15:40:07 EST
From: Philip Benz <100575.2061@CompuServe.COM>
To: "internet:blake@albion.com" 
Subject: Re: Luvah, Los and Orc
Message-Id: <970307204006_100575.2061_GHW87-3@CompuServe.COM>

Gloudina asked, RE my earlier post:

<< I will only ask you this question: Why is it "a wry paradox...that 
through the early parts of FZ the word 'sublime' is consistently
used in reference to the depths and heights of Urizen."

Are the creations  of the unfallen cognitive energy not as sublime as 
that of the creations of the other Zoas? >>

    I suspect there is a major problem hiding in this question.
    Where does Blake portray the creations of any of the **unfallen** 
zoas? Indeed, though I haven't yet read the longer prophecies, I suspect 
that Blake *never* actually portrays events in Eternity. Eternity seems 
to be *beyond* the temporal, evenemential stream of events.

    I have a special problem with the notion that Urizen is portrayed 
before his fall. From the first words of _Ur_, we see the individual 
identity that will be named Urizen as separate from the universal 
fellowship that defines Eternity. To speak, as Gloudina did in her 
question to me, of <> is an oxymoron -- I 
maintain that the cognitive energy that Urizen incarnates is *never* 
portrayed in an unfallen state.
    Indeed, I might go so far as to suggest that *cognition itself* is 
predicated on the genesis of temporality, within Blake's cosmology.
    
    This is key, key stuff.
    Will the knowledgeable Blakeites listening in please, please step in 
if I've got it all wrong.

Cheers,   --- Phil
 

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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:26:05 -0600
From: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu (TOM DILLINGHAM)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Eternity beyond the page
Message-Id: <97030718260497@wc.stephens.edu>

Phil--except in certan parliamentary situations, silence does not necessarily
mean assent.
Tom Dillingham

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:23:36 +0900 (JST)
From: ALbion Rose 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: address
Message-Id: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello Tom,

The address is a military post office in Okinawa, Japan. No, I am not
military, but my beloved wife is - a nurse in the Air Force. I am a
poet/writer. In another three months we will be moving to the San Francisco
area to settle down, but in the meantime, the PSC address works just like a
state side PO address. Thanks.

And,...Just a quick jot about the Blake group - - - I've been with the
group for some time now, hiding out behind the old grey file cabinet in
back of the room.  I have listened through numerous discusions that have
sent me running to my shelves for reference, and, through several grand
brawls that have left me hurling random profanities at my innocent
Macintosh. God knows, I have enjoyed this all. And I think that if Blake
were alive today he would enjoy and appreciate the *spirit* in this group.
What a gas! Thanks to you all.

Peace
Joshua



               ____   ______
              /    \~/      \
             /      ^        \   ____________________________
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             \(( === ))))))))/   R. Joshua Murry
              |(  @ )=( @  )|    PSC 80, Box 15929
             {|  ~~  |  ~~  |}   APO AP 96367-5929
     __     __\      <      /
    /  \   /  \\   \___/   /     rjoshua@mb.inforyukyu.or.jp
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     \ _ V   /     |||||
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 22:17:59 +1000
From: ANN.J.SULLIVAN@bohm.anu.edu.au (Ann  Sullivan)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Everybody must get cloned...
Message-Id: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

To Scott A Leonard,

Thank you for sharing the new and improved version of The Lamb with us.

Ann Sullivan.

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 97 01:31:39 UT
From: "tHOMAS aLTIZER" 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'
Message-Id: 

Pam,

I read this message after responding to your chapter so I now fear that I must 
misunderstand your position if you can so respond to mine.

Tom

----------
From: 	P Van Schaik
Sent: 	Friday, March 07, 1997 12:21 AM
To: 	blake@albion.com
Subject: 	RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'

Blake would , no doubt, have loved what Thomas Altizer says on page
169 of this text:
  The Forgiveness of sin is the New Jerusalem, the apocalyptic name of
love, and the contemporary name of Christ'   and `the forgiveness of sin
is .. the abolition and transcendence of the private ego'. I think Thomas's
interpretation of the role of Jesus (page 103) is also very much in the
spirit of Blake:
`... the work of Jesus was the task of inverting and reversing all those
given images of God which lay .before and  about him'.  and `In Jesus
we encounter the ... prophet who effects an absolute reversal of that
mystery ... [of God]'.  Is this not exactly what Blake attempts to do in
prophesying that Earth will rise from her `chains' and her `sleep'?
Moreover, I have to commend this statement , particularly in the light of
the present discussion on-line re eternity and cognition:
Altizer asks, `Does otherness itself collapse and disappear with the full
realization of an interior death?  Can we celebrate the dissolution of our
unique and particular ego as the initial appearance of a universal
humanity?  All of these questions  drive us to the ethical meaning of a
contemporary apocalyptic way of faith.   Each  of these questions points
the way to an apocalyptic future when ... Christ will be all in all'.

Thomas, you make a wonderful gloss on BLake as I understand him! 
Pam van Schaik, Pretoria.

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 97 18:25:23 UT
From: "tHOMAS aLTIZER" 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'
Message-Id: 

Pam,

I sent you an e-mail reply to your chapter but the e-mail address which you 
gave me would not work.

Tom Altizer

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From: 	P Van Schaik
Sent: 	Friday, March 07, 1997 12:21 AM
To: 	blake@albion.com
Subject: 	RE: Altizer's `The Descent into Hell'

Blake would , no doubt, have loved what Thomas Altizer says on page
169 of this text:
  The Forgiveness of sin is the New Jerusalem, the apocalyptic name of
love, and the contemporary name of Christ'   and `the forgiveness of sin
is .. the abolition and transcendence of the private ego'. I think Thomas's
interpretation of the role of Jesus (page 103) is also very much in the
spirit of Blake:
`... the work of Jesus was the task of inverting and reversing all those
given images of God which lay .before and  about him'.  and `In Jesus
we encounter the ... prophet who effects an absolute reversal of that
mystery ... [of God]'.  Is this not exactly what Blake attempts to do in
prophesying that Earth will rise from her `chains' and her `sleep'?
Moreover, I have to commend this statement , particularly in the light of
the present discussion on-line re eternity and cognition:
Altizer asks, `Does otherness itself collapse and disappear with the full
realization of an interior death?  Can we celebrate the dissolution of our
unique and particular ego as the initial appearance of a universal
humanity?  All of these questions  drive us to the ethical meaning of a
contemporary apocalyptic way of faith.   Each  of these questions points
the way to an apocalyptic future when ... Christ will be all in all'.

Thomas, you make a wonderful gloss on BLake as I understand him! 
Pam van Schaik, Pretoria.

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Date:          Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:18:01 MET
From: "Ib Johansen" 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject:       RCPT: mystic?
Message-Id: <1D0F0953CD@hum.aau.dk>

Confirmation of reading: your message -

    Date:     7 Mar 97 15:24
    To:      blake@albion.com
    Subject: mystic?

Was read at 18:18, 8 Mar 97.

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:33:58 -0600
From: Vesely 
To: blake@albion.com, blake@albion.com
Subject: Two Picky Questions on Satire in Blake
Message-Id: <3.0.16.19800104232515.241f819a@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi after a long time!  I'm currently finishing an abstract on Blake and
Satire  with a working title of "'Satire foul Contagion from which none are
free': Blake's Redeployment of Enlightenment Gender Conventions."   The
quote is from Blake's early fragment, "Then she bore Pale desire...." I
admit that this is a strange place to end up at when I propose to explore
more on Blake and Innocence, an ambition that I mentioned to the list a few
months ago. There really seems to be a connection between Blake's satirical
tendencies and his sublimer impulses. 

My questions:

Anyone have more recent pronouncements than those of Erdman and Bloom on
the dating of "Pale desire" and _An Island in the Moon_?

I cannot remember the critic who complained that Blake had thrown over a
career as a good satirist for what seemed, at least to this particular
critic,  a dubious visionary agenda.  Can anyone help?

Please answer privately, since I may not receive all postings.

Thanks in advance,

Suzanne Araas Vesely

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:39:33 +1000
From: ANN.J.SULLIVAN@bohm.anu.edu.au (Ann  Sullivan)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: mystic?
Message-Id: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Louise Creely wrote:

>I have a question to pose to you lot out there who possibly know more
>about Blake than I do!!!!  Has anyone any ideas about the question
>'IS Blake a Mystic or an Ironic Social Commentator' in relation to
>the French Revolution and what was occuring in London at the time of
>his writings?
>
>Cheers.

I do not know all that much about Blake and Blake scholarship, but I would
suggest that it might be profitable to have a look at Jon Mee's Dangerous
Enthusiasm (if you are listening Dr. Mee - HI!), Iain McCalman's Radical
Underworld and perhaps even Gillian Russell's Theatres of War. There is
also Historicizing Blake edited by David Clark and Steven Worrall, a
collection of papers from a conference. It has been mentioned on this list
before and  includes Helen Bruder's paper on The Book of Thel. This paper
has come in for some criticism on this list on a previous occasion, but I
thought it was excellent.

Ann Sullivan.

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:47:52 -0500 (EST)
From: JohnPEgan@aol.com
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Young Ned of the North
Message-Id: <970309034752_179256302@emout19.mail.aol.com>

Thanks Jennifer.

I guess someone has beaten me to Erdman's concordance at our library.  As
soon as I upgrade my memory--which I will do within the next month--I'll
download the edition from    Nelson Hilton's site. I have a feeling I'll need
it for grad school!   It was really kind of you to respond. I've enjoyed
reading your contributions, and look forward to more of them, and the day
that I can add something to the discussions.  Thanks again.  All the best.

John Egan

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Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 00:13:50 -0800
From: Nesbitt 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: french revolution
Message-Id: <3322713E.239A@sympatico.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi,

I am a graduate student and I am doing research on Blake's poem "the 
french revolution."  This is my first attempt at using the computer to do 
research and I am wondering if you could point me in the right direction 
for some secondary sources on Blake.  I'm finding it a difficult poem to 
interpret and would greatly appreciate any help.  Thanks.

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Date:         Sun, 09 Mar 97 12:41:29 CST
From: MTS231F@vma.smsu.edu
To: blake@albion.com
Subject:      searching eE
Message-Id: <9703091844.AA23455@uu6.psi.com>

While I do find it very convenient to hold the entire Erdman Blake on
my hard drive, thanks to Erdman and Hilton, you should be able to
search for key words directly at the site.  In my case, I can use
Control-F and type in the search string.

On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:47:52 -0500 (EST)  said:
>Thanks Jennifer.
>
>I guess someone has beaten me to Erdman's concordance at our library.  As
>soon as I upgrade my memory--which I will do within the next month--I'll
>download the edition from    Nelson Hilton's site. I have a feeling I'll need
>it for grad school!   It was really kind of you to respond. I've enjoyed
>reading your contributions, and look forward to more of them, and the day
>that I can add something to the discussions.  Thanks again.  All the best.
>
>John Egan
>

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:13:01 +0200
From: P Van Schaik 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Luvah, Los and Orc -Reply
Message-Id: 

Phil, If you look closely at `Jerusalem' and `The Four Zoas', you will find 
refs to Eternity when all the Zoas co-operated as one. There are
descriptions of  Jerusalem as she was when she was loved by all in
Eternity and of Albion in  his fourfold majesty.  The laments of the fallen
Emanations also help to evoke what eternal life was like and what it is
like after the fall.  Even in the `Songs', the Sunflower seems to recall that
`golden clime' and the traveller-speaker in  `The Garden of Love' clearly
is astonished by what has happened to the `Garden of Love' since he
recalls what it was like in Eternity. Oohtoon's lament in VDA is similarly
concerned with contrasting love in Eternity with the fallen loves of earth.

THe unfallen Eternals definitely can look down on the temporal world and
see the horrors which are happening there.  Thel does this and flees
back.  Other Eternals  draw themselves away from the vaccuum created
by ALbion lest they fall into the abyss. Proof of all this will have to wait till
I get a website up as it is all in my MA and doctorate.  Pam 

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:18:42 +0200
From: P Van Schaik 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: french revolution -Reply
Message-Id: 

Others  on-line will know more about sources.  My own personal
approach would be to see that, while the poem reflects historical reality, 
it represents archetypal situations and the setting would seem to be in
one of the fallen spiritual states which prefigure  what happens on earth.
Would like to see others discuss this rather than expatiate further.  Pam 

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:16:33 GMT
From: jlord@ull.ac.uk
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Introduction
Message-Id: <97031011163345@ull.ac.uk>

Hello there - having lurked on this list for the last few weeks, I thought
that good manners demanded that I introduced myself.  My name is John Lord, and
I am Sub-librarian (Academic) at the University of Library, in Senate House.  
My interest in Blake is long-standing (goes back at least twenty five years, 
and is principally focused on bibliographical matters, especially relating
to the printing techniques used in the Illuminated Books - needless to writers 
such as Essick and Viscomi (sorry! that shd. rd. "needless to say").  I am not 
very well-versed in the literary or art historical literature, but I collect 
quite intensively in Blakeana (not originals - you can't do that on a 
librarian's salary)- mainly bibliographies and catalogues and facsimiles.  I am
not currently active in any Blake research, because I currently trying to 
gather material for a comprehensive bibliography of the now largely-
forgotten writer and critic, Rayner Heppenstall - his favourite poet was
Blake, by the way! - Best wishes, John Lord
Dr John A Lord
Sub-librarian (Academic)
University of London Library
Senate House
Malet Street
LONDON WC1E 7HU

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:54:34 -0600 (CST)
From: lawesl@neosoft.com
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: searching eE
Message-Id: <199703101354.HAA08037@mailbox.neosoft.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>While I do find it very convenient to hold the entire Erdman Blake on
>my hard drive, thanks to Erdman and Hilton, you should be able to
>search for key words directly at the site.  In my case, I can use
>Control-F and type in the search string.
>
I read this exchange between Jennifer and John. May I have Nelson Hilton's
website address. I missed the earlier post containing it.

Sincerely,
Lawrence Lawes
Board Certified Social Worker
Critical Incident Responder
MAJOR, USAFR, BSC
912 East Lexington Avenue
Terrytown, LA 70056-4543
(504) 392-4046
DSN 678-3680

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:33:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Nelson Hilton 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: searching eE
Message-Id: 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 MTS231F@vma.smsu.edu wrote:

> While I do find it very convenient to hold the entire Erdman Blake on
> my hard drive, thanks to Erdman and Hilton, you should be able to
> search for key words directly at the site.  

This capability should be up by mid-Spring--along with the identification
of every line (so you don't have to guess where you are;-); and as the
whole will be ordered more-or-less chronologically (much like the Keynes
edition), search-lists will reflect that order as well.

Cheers, Nelson

   Nelson Hilton -=- English -=- University of Georgia -=- Athens
        Was ist Los? "Net of Urizen" or "Jerusalem the Web"?
                http://virtual.park.uga.edu/~wblake           

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:17:45 -0500
From: albright@world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: french revolution -Reply
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Isn't it also, too, that events weren't unfolding as The Prophet had
believed they would, and so he was constantly readjusting to "reality" even
as he changed it into new archetype?

-Randall Albright

>Others  on-line will know more about sources.  My own personal
>approach would be to see that, while the poem reflects historical reality,
>it represents archetypal situations and the setting would seem to be in
>one of the fallen spiritual states which prefigure  what happens on earth.
>Would like to see others discuss this rather than expatiate further.  Pam

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:00:21 -0600 (CST)
From: reillys@ix.netcom.com (susan p. reilly)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Hi, John. Welcome to the Blake List
Message-Id: <199703101500.JAA17588@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com>

Hello, John Lord.

As you know, there has been list discussion recently on Blake and 
matters bibliographical (or at least an interest expressed by some of 
us on the list).
Does your library have a collection of rare books and MSS by or dealing 
with Blake?  And can you answer the question I posed last week or the 
week before:  what is known about the number of copies of Blake's works 
which were actually printed  (as opposed to those known to exist)?  Was 
Blake required to enter his works in the Stationer's Register, or did 
he manage to avoid having to do so since he was often publishing 
privately?

Susan Reilly

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Date:         Mon, 10 Mar 97 12:40:19 CST
From: Mark Trevor Smith 
To: blake@albion.com
Subject:      searching eE
Message-Id: <9703101847.AA27534@uu7.psi.com>

Nelson Hilton recently reported that his Web edition of Erdman's Blake
will soon be searchable by keyword.  I just flipped over there and was
able to use Netscape's Control-F to enter search strings and find them.
I assume that Professor Hilton is planning to improve the search
capabilities, but meanwhile, such concordance-like capability is now
available, at least through Netscape.
  If you don't have the URL: http://virtual.park.uga.edu/~wblake/e-E.html

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