Today's Topics:
Re: THE EARTH & THE TYGER
Re: The Search for "Context" in Blake -Reply
Re: Blake and Science -Reply -Reply
Political Correctly WRONG -Reply
Re: THE EARTH & THE TYGER -Reply
Thanks for your responses -Reply
Re: Science in Eternity?
RE: Altizer introduction -Reply -Reply -Reply
Re: THE LAST SUPPER -- FOLLOW-UP
RE: life of a list
Re: Science in Eternity?
Blake and Science Again...
Systems, Mechanistic and in Life...
Circles or Spirals?
Re: Political Correctly WRONG -Reply
Orc, Los & Frye
Re: Circles or Spirals?
Re: Re: THE EARTH & THE TYGER
Re: Blake and Science Again...
Sympathies for the headerless
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 00:54:22 -0500 (EST)
From: MTavish@aol.com
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: THE EARTH & THE TYGER
Message-Id: <970218005422_1381851713@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Hi all,
Couldn't one say that by giving a lamby Tiger, Blake answers
the question posed by the poem? To me, the picture points to
some correspondence or identity between the lamb and tyger that
the world of Urizen obscures.
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:42:41 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
To: blake@albion.com, albright@world.std.com
Subject: Re: The Search for "Context" in Blake -Reply
Message-Id:
We've been through this question before as to whether I am imposing a
closed system on Blake or whether he himself defines the fall and
redemption in terms of pairs of well-defined and consistent contrary
images. As in both my theses on Blake I found plenty evidence to support
the fact that he does so use images, I have to insist that far from MY
imposing a system, others are doing so in adopting , without adequate
debate, the critical popular view that Blake moved from hope to despair
and from embracing revolution. I don't concur at all with this closed
system. Where do you see him embracing revolution ... in all the Orc
refs? See, I don't agree with the narrow definition of Orc as a
revolutionist. He is a victim of Urizen's mistaken vision which
commences the fall, and also becomes what he beholds in the fallen
world, thus divine love becomes erotic, sexual love ... vastly to
oversdimplify. Pam
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:54:49 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
To: blake@albion.com, albright@world.std.com
Subject: Re: Blake and Science -Reply -Reply
Message-Id:
I feel rather as if I'm being propelled to go in circles in answering your
valid objections, Randall, because I have tried to indicate before that to
mention Blake's consistent opposing of the unfallen and fallen worlds
does not mean that I see this world as fallen. My views don't reflect
Blake's views and I also do not imply that he saw nothing good in the
science of this world ... just that his views in the long run , or on the
grand cosmic scale, indicate that all things here are distorted by being
about the husks of reality, not the divine essence. Of course, he would
have applauded scientific breakthroughs, given his delight in the creative
use of the imagination. It is true that the poems "America" and "Europe"
seem more about the spiritual events in one of the 27 regions through
which the Zoas fall and seem to evoke how these events have
repercussions on earth of a political nature. Also true that Blake's earlier
visualisations of Orc would not exactly coincide with his later
development of Orc as a character in the narrative of Albion's fall... but I
still find critical vies of Orc very limited, arbitrary and misleading. To
speak generally , as we do on this list isn't going to convince anyone,
anyway, so I guess only detailed articles or discussion, line by line of the
text will warrant serious attention. ANd few of us have time, between
working, to do this. Pam
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:03:41 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
To: blake@albion.com, albright@world.std.com
Subject: Political Correctly WRONG -Reply
Message-Id:
Randall, your posting brings many apt Blake aphorisms to mind:
Re flux: The Cistern contains, the fountain overflows.
Re each of us being on a unique search for our own humanity: No bird
soars too high if it soars with its own wings.
And Blake knew that we each have our own very individual view of all
things and that (to quote loosely) 'My view of Jesus is that he has a
long nose , like unto me, yours is that he has a short nose, like unto
yours...."
I don't believe that Blake was bisexual or ambivalent to women. Surely
such assertions need debating in depth ... ? Pam
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:28:53 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
To: blake@albion.com, rdumain@igc.apc.org
Cc: tomdill@wc.stephens.edu
Subject: Re: THE EARTH & THE TYGER -Reply
Message-Id:
Re getting 2 copies of all I say prefixed by a long twaddle: I hope this is
not happening to everyone online. I have tried to find out why via our
computer service and they say it is not something Unisa can remedy.
Possibly it happened to Ralph in particular because I tried to reply
privately to him on a few occasions and this resulted in duplication given
the way our group is automatically set up to all now. I find it hard to write
all on one letter as I open each I receive separately and then answer
each as I have time between marking assignments, preparing lectures
etc. Anyway, take heart, I'll probably be kept too busy to respond much
this year, but have enjoyed encountering others.
Re my supposed doctrinal stance? Whose doctrine do you suppose I
endorse? One of my own construction and dissemination?
Re what I construe as Blake's intellectual and political purpose:
intellectually, he appears to be trying to uplift us and inspire us with belief
in a benevolent god of mercy and compassion and to remind us of our
immortal origins. Politically, he seems to be attacking all forms of
oppression and dogma. I may have mistaken Ralph's views as PC
because they seem so insistent on my doing something other than I what
I construe as right re Blake, and my views, as pointed out several times
before, do not rest on comparisons with Blake and the Kabbalah but on ,
primarily, detailed exploration of Blake's text. Only post-doctoral work
has concerned the unavoidable connection between the two since they
fit hand-in-glove and without effort into one another. ... which gives me
hope that my original interpretations were correct since they are
perfectly supported by the new model applied, ultimately. Pam
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:02:50 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Thanks for your responses -Reply
Message-Id:
Only one article of mine was put on the Blake online last year, and this
dealt with Wine and wine cups and Blake's vision of Eternity. It will be
archived, along with all our discussions of last year, but I don't know
exactly where, on which date .. perhaps Seth will know. Sorry, I'm
trying to send this to the sender alone, and it won't go except to all, Pam
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:34:11 +0000
From: timli@controls.eurotherm.co.uk (Tim Linnell)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Science in Eternity?
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>Next, If you agree with me that Blake feared and hated science, do you
>also agree with me that this a weakness in Blake? Or do you think that
>he was correct in fearing and hating science?
I don't think that Blake hated science particularly, but rather the way
in which scientists believed themselves to be the sole arbiters of truth,
excluding what he felt instinctively to be the true nature of reality. He
hated, I think, closed minds. Recall also that Newtonian physics reduces the
universe to a simple machine where one action leads inevitably to a fixed,
predictable conclusion; in which, by extension, everything is preordained
and there is no free will. It is tempting to speculate that the shimmering
web of uncertainty described by modern quantum physics would have been more
attractive to him.
I don't think this was a weakness: one might better describe it as a component
of his character. Blake, I think, was a passionate man who had suffered many
frustrations in having his work accepted and understood. This may well have
led to irrational prejudices, but ultimately this did feed his art.
Tim Linnell
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:06:59 +0200
From: P Van Schaik
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: RE: Altizer introduction -Reply -Reply -Reply
Message-Id:
Dear Thomas, Tried replying directly to you, but can't see your entire
email address onscreen and the route is to all even if I press otherwise..
No, I haven't read Bronstein, and will try to obtain a copy of this on
inter-library loan, as we don't have it.. My own work has taken me in the
direction of relating all the symbols of Blake to the Kabbalah: Jerusalem
to Binah, Jesus to Hokhmah ( and as seeing this divine marriage as
central to existence in unity with God - hence the tragedy of Jerusalem's
being cast out) , of Urizen to Din, of Tifereth to Beulah. I see Blake's
vision of the Fall as corresponding closely to the Lurianic tsitsum, and
the endings in Albion's restoration as closely parallel to the Grand Jubilee
of the Kabbalah. At present, Zwi Werblowski in Jerusalem is trying to
find time to read my manuscript on this, but i have had no other feedback
from anyone. Would you , perhaps, be interested in seeing a chapter or
two? Pam
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:25:42 -0500
From: Ron Broglio
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: THE LAST SUPPER -- FOLLOW-UP
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Death of a Bureaucrat dir. by Tomas Guitierrez Alea
Ralph Dumain wrote:
>
> For Josh Hansen:
>
> I must assume "The Last Supper" is available on video. I did not
> rent it myself nor did I see it in a movie theater. I attended a
> small public showing on a TV screen, so somebody must have
> obtained a videotape somewhere. I still can't recall he
> director's name, but he is the most internationally famous Cuban
> director, having done all the major Cuban films since the
> Revolution from Death of a Bureaucrat (1966) up to that recent
> film in which the Cuban commies finally come to terms with the gay
> issue. Try your nearest video rental store with a good stock of
> foreign films. Content-wise, this is a great film.
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:50:34 -0500 (EST)
From: WATT
To: Blake@albion.com, albright
Subject: RE: life of a list
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Absolutely! I agree, Randall. WB himself, as we know from the letters &
notebook, was quick to expend his Luvah / Orc energies. Witness the
[genuine] rage and frustration with Wm Hayley, a man whom I believe
he loved. Only blockheads, pardon my slang, are offended by the
voice of honest indignation. And anyway, if you don't like someone's
tone you can always ignore their communications. thanks again, Jim
Watt
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:34:16 -0600
From: jmichael@seraph1.sewanee.edu (J. Michael)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Science in Eternity?
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Tim Linnell has already expressed very well (and succinctly) the points I
would have made on this subject. I'm still curious as to why no one has
taken up the matter of Blake's own use of the word "Science" in two
positive and puzzling contexts: the last line of _The Four Zoas_, in which
"The dark Religions have departed and sweet Science reigns," and the
passage in _Milton_ that refers to "Architecture which is Science."
Jennifer Michael
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:23:53 -0500
From: albright@world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Blake and Science Again...
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David Medearis:
>Next, If you agree with me that Blake feared and hated science, do you
>also agree with me that this a weakness in Blake? Or do you think that
>he was correct in fearing and hating science?
First, I agree with some of what Tim Linnell said. (No need for a double post!)
I think Blake was *skeptical* of what science could do, unhindered from
Human Form Divine goals. In other words, he saw the beginnings of the
Industrial Revolution and was appalled, as in the "Chimney Sweeper" poems,
of how science's sister, technology, could dislocate a population,
disconnect them from each other, artificially isolate, etc.
We see this science/technology dislocation dilemma even more in the 20th
century, don't we? Alienation. Gas chambers for Jews, Gays, Gypsies, and
other unwanted types under Nazi Germany. Nuclear bombs being carefully
built while issues like human community are totally disregarded... All in
the name of some "rational" decision making that is actually... a
disconnected kind of "mind running amok" from the human body, the human
spirit of compassion.
As far as Blake preferring his four-fold vision, or what I would simply
call "the muse" or "inspiration", I think that's every artist's right. If
some people were going to excess with Newton/Bacon/Locke "rational"
thinking, I see no problem with Blake posing what may seem like an excess
on the other side. And, in fact, remembering this-- just as "The Proverbs
from Hell" in "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" are only presenting
proverbs from that ONE place-- I think Blake is opening the door to there
being a legitimacy to those views. In other words, like Camille Paglia now
criticizing Michel Foucault, would Blake have bothered to deride these
people, as well as Swedenborg on other issues, if he didn't think they had
some legitimacy or pose some threat if followed to excess?
>Last, do you think that Blake's fear and hatred of science are projected,
>so to speak, on Urizen, as I suggested in my earlier post?
Which Urizen? The stereotypical Urizen is one that is a pun, perhaps, on
"your reason", right? A kind of tyrant that rules by laws, laws, and more
laws, whereas Los is an eternal prophet. And would that all God's people
were prophets, right? Would that all people were like William
Blake..........
-Randall Albright
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:24:27 -0500
From: albright@world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Systems, Mechanistic and in Life...
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Pam Van Schaik writes:
>We've been through this question before as to whether I am imposing a
>closed system on Blake or whether he himself...>>>
"I must create a system, or be enslaved by someone else's!" But systems
change, if they're alive! And Blake's metaphors can move from inner to
outer, individual to whole, so that P.H. Butter, in his 1982 Introduction
to "Selected Poems" by Everyman, says:
"There are at least three ways to read the prophetic works."
Emphasis on the AT LEAST, folks, as we see just in "The Tyger" poem.
Or how about this one, from the same Introduction by Butter:
"One should read each poem as a poem, and then one sees that his
vision and the mythology embodying it are always growing." Emphasis on the
GROWING, as in a living person would do.
I don't believe that Blake moved from "hope to despair", but he certainly
CHANGED over the course of his life. So did the world in which he lived.
Who was it who was running around London in a red French revolutionary cap
at one point, in real life? Why is it that Orc, in "America" and "Europe",
can *coincidentally* look like the young William Blake with red hair,
particularly on plate 10 of "America"? Can one at least begin,
reductionistly, as a stab in the dark, to say that "America" ends on a sad
note for Albion but a pretty good one for America, whereas "Europe" is much
more pessimistic about the outcome? Do you need to cross-reference with the
later "Milton" and "Jerusalem" to come up with answers on what should be
their own prophetic poems?
Blake is correct in that the tick-tock Enlightenment didn't work out as
planned in Revolutionary France, but there WERE *some* logical reasons why
it didn't, as I've explained to this group before! _Citizens_ by Simon
Schama contains some answers. Blake negates that, and throws it all into a
hocus-pocus of mythology instead, as he also throws America's "success",
disregarding what I'm sure were utterly boring nuts and bolts philosophy
that underscore our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
Nobody to date in this group has successfully defended "America" and
"Europe" to me as great prophetic poems. Go for it. I'll demystify myself a
bit (I have strong opinions on them) to say that I think they contain a
great deal of information on the problems of Stasis and Change, War and
Peace, and Kharma.
-Randall Albright
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:24:37 -0500
From: albright@world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Circles or Spirals?
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>I feel rather as if I'm being propelled to go in circles in answering your
>valid objections, Randall, because I have tried to indicate before that to
>mention Blake's consistent opposing of the unfallen and fallen worlds
>does not mean that I see this world as fallen.>>>
I'm simply trying to point out what I see as flaws in your reading of
Blake. For example, do you consider _Songs of Innocence_ to be about an
unfallen world, and _Songs of Experience_ to be about a fallen world, Pam?
If so, we disagree. That's far too simplistic a view of both sets of poems.
>My views don't reflect Blake's views>>>
But you're trying to give a view on Blake, right?
>and I also do not imply that he saw nothing good in the science of this
>world ... >>>
Wouldn't you agree, as a reductionist stab in the dark, that his views of
science were only when it was to be used for humane and artistic aims? I
mean, Jennifer Michael pointed out how the tyger was created... pounded
into being by some... artist, right? And if you read the "Printing Press in
Hell" (plate 15) section of "Marriage of Heaven and Hell", it's about the
creation of ART. On the other hand, he (or the Devil) has that famous quote
against what I would call super-highways (strait roads) in favor of... the
roads less travelled? The crooked roads, correct? Most of the time Blake
himself not only implies, but outrightly decries, the science of this
world.
>just that his views in the long run , or on the
>grand cosmic scale, indicate that all things here are distorted by being
>about the husks of reality, not the divine essence.>>>
I disagree. Our bodies... true, we see THROUGH our corporeal eye, but
without it, we wouldn't see at all! These bodies of ours are NOT husk!
They're divine! I think Blake was trying to say that, and if you want
further reference, check out the _Songs_ and "Marriage of Heaven and Hell",
folks. You can read in "Milton" how we need to throw off these "rags",
whatever that means, but I'm not referring to "Milton".
> Of course, he would
>have applauded scientific breakthroughs, given his delight in the creative
>use of the imagination.>>>
Really? Is that why The Arts and Crafts Movement used him as one of their
models to reject industrialization in favor of what was then called a
pre-Raphaelite return to "human-made" things that had style? Would he have
loved what D.H. Lawrence rightly called the "Satanic Mills" (a poem by
Lawrence), in which he said that things had gotten so much WORSE than
Blake's time?
On the other hand, I think you're right that he would have applauded
*certain* scientific breakthroughs. But a breakthrough in and of itself is
nothing, it's how it is used. For humane purposes, as Blake's
anthropormophic vision might state it, or for inhumane ones?
>It is true that the poems "America" and "Europe"
>seem more about the spiritual events in one of the 27 regions through
>which the Zoas fall and seem to evoke how these events have
>repercussions on earth of a political nature.>>>
27 regions! Talk about classification!
>Also true that Blake's earlier
>visualisations of Orc would not exactly coincide with his later
>development of Orc as a character in the narrative of Albion's fall...>>>
Thank you. I was waiting for that. Albion's fall is described in a poem
dated 1820, correct ("Jerusalem")? Whereas "America" is dated 1793 and
"Europe" is 1794.
>but I
>still find critical views of Orc very limited, arbitrary and misleading.>>>
I don't know what you mean by that.
-Randall Albright
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:25:02 -0500
From: albright@world.std.com (R.H. Albright)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Political Correctly WRONG -Reply
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Nice postings, Pam.
>Randall, your posting brings many apt Blake aphorisms to mind:
>
>Re flux: The Cistern contains, the fountain overflows.
>
>Re each of us being on a unique search for our own humanity: No bird
>soars too high if it soars with its own wings.
>
>And Blake knew that we each have our own very individual view of all
>things and that (to quote loosely) 'My view of Jesus is that he has a
>long nose , like unto me, yours is that he has a short nose, like unto
>yours...."
>
>I don't believe that Blake was bisexual or ambivalent to women. Surely
>such assertions need debating in depth ... ? Pam
Oh, absolutely. "Daughters of Albion"-- tepid response to the response to
someone who had been exposed to Mary Wollstonecraft, don't you think? And
then there's the way he asked his wife to marry him. Something like "Do you
pity me?" "Jerusalem" trekkers can fill the group in on what those female
vampires were all about, dragging Albion (?) down. Visual artists can
debate which figures look more erotic, men or women, or both. That's just
an opener...
-Randall Albright
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Date: 18 Feb 97 15:01:57 EST
From: Philip Benz <100575.2061@CompuServe.COM>
To: "internet:blake@albion.com"
Subject: Orc, Los & Frye
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Orc, Los & Frye: who is "the sublime energizer"?
Although I am now convinced that the "sublime energizer", refered to
in the _Descriptive Catalog of Pictures_ as the Strong man, should be
identified with Los, I'm still exploring why one of my sources
identifies it as Orc.
This source, the French agregation exam description published in the
B.O. no 24, affirms that "Orc of the books of Lambeth [is] the one Blake
calls "a sublime energizer"" -- erroneously, IMHO.
Now, after your helpful remarks I would have let this drop, but
another online friend informs me that
<>
Now unfortunately I do not currently have access to the Frye book,
but I suppose some of you folks on the list must know _Fearful Symmetry_
backwards and forwards. Does this sound like something Frye would say,
or *did* say? If so (and even though I am still of the opinion that it's
wrong) then at least I would know *where* the (mis-)identification came
from.
For the record, I have checked several locations in Damon's _A Blake
Dictionary_ and nowhere do I find Orc refered to as "a younger version
of Los". Certainly in _Urizen_ he is portrayed as the *child* of Los and
Enitharmon. Certainly Orc is a source of great energy. But he is not a
source of the sublime in the Blakean sense.
I would of course not want to base my argument on Damon alone; his
is just another interpretation (albeit a well-considered one) and can't
replace the texts themselves. So far I have encountered nothing in Blake
to support this assertion. The question then is whether Frye identifies
Orc with Los, and on what basis. Mere filiation does not seem sufficient
grounds.
BTW, I find fascinating for a study of the sublime the
*counter-sublime* art portrayed in Night the Second of _The Four Zoas_
(Blake page 30, Erdman page 318):
"Spread & many a Spirit caught, innumerable the nets
Innumerable the gins & traps; & many a soothing flute
Is form'd & many a corded lyre, outspread over the immense
In cruel delight they trap the listeners, & in cruel delight
Bind them, condensing the strong energies into little compass"
If I am not greatly mistaken, this Urizenic form of art is a
complete inversion of sublime art, whose purpose is to stimulate the
mind's powers of imaginative vision.
Cheers, --- Phil
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:04:37 -0600
From: jmichael@seraph1.sewanee.edu (J. Michael)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Circles or Spirals?
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>Thank you. I was waiting for that. Albion's fall is described in a poem
>dated 1820, correct ("Jerusalem")? Whereas "America" is dated 1793 and
>"Europe" is 1794.
Just a clarification: Albion's fall is also described in _The Four Zoas_,
which was begun as early as 1797 and incorporates material from the Books
of Urizen, Ahania, and Los, all dated 1795.
JM
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:07:43 -0500 (EST)
From: TomD3456@aol.com
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Re: THE EARTH & THE TYGER
Message-Id: <970218160732_508375999@emout14.mail.aol.com>
I have just "upgraded" to America Online 3.0 (NOT an improvement, IMHO), and
I can no longer see headers on e-mail, which often told me who had written.
Now I have to search through the interminable footers to see who's
responsible for a message -- unless you sign it.
Please sign your mail!
Thanks,
Tom Devine
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:12:19 -0600
From: jmichael@seraph1.sewanee.edu (J. Michael)
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Re: Blake and Science Again...
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>I think Blake was *skeptical* of what science could do, unhindered from
>Human Form Divine goals. In other words, he saw the beginnings of the
>Industrial Revolution and was appalled, as in the "Chimney Sweeper" poems,
>of how science's sister, technology, could dislocate a population,
>disconnect them from each other, artificially isolate, etc.
Good points, Randall, but I wish you'd picked a better example. There's
nothing technological about the forced labor of the chimney sweeps. At the
time Blake wrote the "Chimney Sweeper" poems, mechanical devices for
sweeping chimneys already existed that were cheaper to use than children,
but they could only work in straight up-and-down chimneys. The government
was reluctant to infringe on "property rights" by imposing standards
requiring chimneys to be sweepable by machines. (Sound familiar?) I have
to say that even Blake would approve of scientific advances that spared
human suffering.
Jennifer Michael
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:24:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Nelson Hilton
To: blake@albion.com
Subject: Sympathies for the headerless
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On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 TomD3456@aol.com wrote:
> I can no longer see headers on e-mail, which often told me who had written.
Yikes! can't employ ^D as the easy solution to list logorrhoea with that
limitation! Why not try a local provider and a mail program like "pine,"
which begins with an index screen identifying the sender, message size,
and subject of new items for you to open, postpone, or delete immediately
as you choose. Most browser mail programs let you do the same.
Nelson Hilton -=- English -=- University of Georgia -=- Athens
Was ist Los? "Net of Urizen" or "Jerusalem the Web"?
http://virtual.park.uga.edu/~wblake
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